I took the coach up to Cummins in Shoreview at the end of June for regular maintenance, oil and filters and a transmission service and to have them check a few other things.
Coach Projects, Waste Bay Redo, Late May, 2015
Third Waste Valve, 2001, U320, 36′ single slide.
This is an excerpt from a ForeForums post I did on this project. The help given and received on this forum is enormously helpful. More than 3,000 owners and interested members make this an extraordinary resource. It is also a great place to meet and make new friends. The project was done over the past couple weeks.
This task, replace the interior waste valves and add a third valve. Add a direct fresh water fill.
The extra structure in my 2001 36′ with one slide changes the arrangement of the parts compared to coaches without slides and other model years. The original setup had a single fiberglass panel onto which all of the parts were mounted plus a top piece. The 3″ waste drain pipe comes through at the bottom, the gray and black tank valve handles are mounted in this panel and the service faucet is also mounted in this panel. And there is a 110v outlet, a phone jack and the cable input connection. The lower section of this bay in our coach has a black rubber liner that come up about 5″ on the sides and the fiberglass panel.
Disassembly
I turned off the water to the service faucet and drained as much water out as possible. Disassembly requires peeling the glued-on rubber liner from the fiberglass panel, removing a dozen or so screws and then trying to manipulate the panel with the valve handles and PEX lines to the faucet still attached. The PEX lines need to be disconnected as well as the cable wires from each valve and the cable guide from the valve cable mount. The 110v outlet has to be removed as well as the cable/phone connection. The faucet can be removed from the panel from the outside but the rest of the faucet and the water connections are attached to the panel. mark which cable goes to which valve.
This was not easy, sitting on the ground, bad knees and hips bent like pretzels, arms through impossibly narrow openings doing things you cannot see. It took a while but I got it done. All I could think of was trying to put it back together and then trying to service any of this stuff in the future.
Replacing the main waste valves.
I carefully located where the new third valve was going to go on the waste exit pipe. I marked the location so that when the third valve was installed and a 45° fitting attached the drain hose could be connected and the door closed.
The gray and black tanks were emptied, flushed and emptied again and the coach tipped toward the curb side. Each valve has four bolts that go through the flanges on each side of the valve body and the valve body. They also go through the two halves of the valve cable attachment. (These bolts are a bit longer.) There are two bolts and nuts at the top of the valve cable attachment. Once all of these bolts are off the “h” shaped outer drain pipe assembly can be removed. Clean the flanges carefully. I cut the outlet pipe to the correct length.
Use plumber’s silicone grease on the four cleaned flange faces, one rubber gasket goes on each flange, wipe some silicone grease around the face of each side of the valve blade. Carefully reassemble the valve bodies, cable attachment and the outer “h” section and tighten the bolts. Check the operation of the valves as you go. Some long socket wrench extensions and a universal joint made this easier. Once the cables are ready to go back in the outer cable sleeve fits into the top of the cable attachment and the wire goes into the valve handle. A set screw makes the connection firm. Save the allen wrench.
I wanted to keep the rubber liner, it seems to help keep things tidy. And I wanted this to be easier to reassemble and service if needed in the future. So I sketched up a three piece solution and went to see my neighborhood sheet metal guy. “No problem”, he said.
Reassembly
The Bottom Section (14 ga stainless steel) has the rubber liner and the valve handles attached. With this part installed, the cables are easy to attach to the black and gray tank main valves. I added a few gallons of water to each waste tank, leveled the coach and did a paper towel under each valve for a couple hours drip test. Dry towels.
The Middle Section (14 ga stainless steel) has the 110v outlet and the cable/telephone connection and the connections for the hot and cold PEX lines. This was pretty easy to install. The PEX connections are hand tightened (plus a half turn with a wrench). The electrical outlet is crimped on to the Romex cable and feeds through the hole and is attached with two screws from the front. The phone/cable also feeds through the hole and attaches from the front. Once that was fixed in place I reinstalled the outside part of the service faucet (use silicon grease on the rubber washers). I opened the manifold valves to the faucet, bled out air and ran water through the lines. I left the pump on and did another paper towel under each set of connections behind the panel for a couple hours drip test. Dry towels.
We talked for a while about no faucet, maybe just a set of valves and a spray hose. Lots of appeal there but we use the faucet frequently for some warm soapy water to remove bugs from the front of the coach before they petrify. There are bugs up north here that approach the size of small birds and seem to be made up of mostly green and yellow goo. So we kept the faucet. I repurposed a 50′ 3/8″ air line with hose fittings on each end as a service hose. Very compact on an extension cord reel. easy to get all around the coach as needed.
Then I fit in the Upper Section (also 14 ga stainless steel) and finished attaching it. A bit of silicon seal went here and there. The light was attached to the top panel. I didn’t even know there was one there until I started taking things apart. I moved it to the side wall and used an LED bulb.
I doesn’t look all that different from the original but it is much more serviceable and the third valve will work well.
And I got the direct fresh water fill installed as well.
In Hastings, 4/25/2015
Well, it is Saturday and we are back in Hastings. The house looks clean and tidy just as we left it except for the neatly organized piles of mail on the dining room table.
The Way Back Machine, 4/21/2015 – 4/23/2015
It is a long way across Colorado and Nebraska. After about 400 miles we stopped at Windmills State Recreation Area just east of Kearney. It is close to the interstate and has 6 small stocked fishing lakes and a collection of old windmills.
The grass was green. Someone was mowing, it smelled nice. The park was almost empty. Good to stop and get out for a walk.
A very large lake made by two dams.
And a nice campsite. It was very windy for both of the past two days. Mostly from the northwest which gave us a bit of a tail wind.
They must have 24′ ceilings or more. Something like this at home would be nice. Another Foretravel owner in Australia built something like this only the legs were on pivots so that it folded almost flat. He would drive on it and then hydraulic pivots would push it up into a raised position. I think I would rather have something solid. Another fellow in BC built a drive over pit. It is some work to crawl under these to work on them.
The Way Back Machine, 4/18 – 4/22/2015
We have left Santa Fe and are heading to Denver for one of two regular maintenance stops. Santa Fe to Denver could be done in a day but not us. We drove east and then north on I25 through Raton Pass (about 7900 ft). We have been through this pass several times and it is a relatively easy pass to go over, not too steep, not too high. Then north towards Pueblo, CO where we stopped for the night in a unremarkable RV park. It was only $20. The weather report had snow between Colorado Springs and Denver. We were headed for the Boulder County Fairgrounds in Longmont, CO so stopping and waiting a bit for the weather to clear seemed prudent. In the morning we set out for Longmont, about 4 hrs away.
It was an OK drive but getting through Denver is always crazy. Lots of traffic slowdowns on Saturday? And accident that put everything to stop and go for 30 minutes didn’t help and a 5 mile backup to exit to the High Times Marijuana show at the Merchandise Mart really didn’t help. Better to go by there before the event than after. Apparently it was sort of like a cook-off to crown the best of the best. I guess they must have had samples.
I think she was second place. Her horse had a very long tail. We think they were all about 13 years old or so. This is a rider/horse sort of thing where they both have to learn how to do this. It was fun to watch. The horses were sort of glammed up, saddles were fancy, saddle blankets were the glitzy ones and the riders were in their finest performance wear.
Santa Fe, 4/5-4/17/2015

It was a lot of work. When Ed and Barb were there we were extra busy. But there was always time for a sit down break, a cup of coffee or tea or hot chocolate.
Santa Fe, 4/5-4/17/2015
Part 3, Art and Museums
There is an interior courtyard. The building to the right is an auditorium. The posts, beams, corbels, lintels, vigas, scuppers, color and rounded shapes are all part of the style.
This painting looks like spring going up toward Chimayo. The white blossoms on pear trees were everywhere. A blue door on your home is to insure good luck. Color is everywhere. No Santa Fe art visit would be complete without some Gustave Baumann, one of our favorite artists.
This is his 1918 original painting of Day of the Deer Dance. From this painting he would carve a wood block to make the final reverse image woodblock print.
Santa Fe, 4/5-4/17/2015
Part 2, Great Food
And a sopapilla with honey.
It is a very pleasant meal in calm, familiar surroundings with wonderful people helping you to enjoy the meal and the moment.
Santa Fe, 4/5-4/17/2015
Part 1
The Plaza comes alive during the day. There are food vendors cooking fajita, lots of folks selling jewelry in front of the Governor’s Palace and across the street, usually somebody playing a musical instument with a hat out and lots of people to watch. We were there on a Saturday, it must have been Prom day at the High School since there were quite a few young ladies in lovely dresses trying to walk in extrodinarily high heeled platform shoes and constantly adjusting this part or that in what were obviously not their normal clothes. Lots of posing for pictures. A big white limo full of one bunch, a big black limo full of another. Not sure if that means anything. There was a fire truck there too. The firemen were giving out plastic firemens hats to little kids who were getting their pictures taken next to the fire truck. A police car was there too and the two cops were taking off their bikes from the rack and suiting up for a bicycle patrol.
Cochiti Lake, 4/1 – 4/5/2015
Cochiti Lake is a reservoir created by damming up the Rio Grande River. This area is part of the Cochiti Pueblo reservation. The US Army Corps of Engineers built this earth filled dam starting in 1965. It was completed in 1975. The dam is more than 5 miles long and is the 10th largest dam in the US. As with most COE sites, providing recreation opportunities is an important part of the development. At most COE sites there are very nice campgrounds with electrical hookups. Many have water at each camp site, some have waste connections. And with our Senior National Park Pass these sites are $8-$13/night.
The campground was about 200 ft elevation higher than the lake. It was another 300 ft climb to the Visitor’s Center. It was closed but scheduled to open in another week or so. I rode my bike up to the Visitor’s Center (about a mile away) and then down a bit and out on to the dam road. I had to go through two locked gates so I didn’t go very far. Homeland Security sort of thing I guess.




























































